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I don't know in which Circle of Hell timed math tests belong, but it could be fun to think up a good contrapasso for the people who administer them.

Jenny I couldn't agree more and I was a kid who loved math, math problems and actually even like timed tests but that's cause I was good at them and really the pits with other stuff. In my head I go back and forth with this idea about most/all academic subjects and wonder if I will ever figure out what is the right thing to do.

Hello Elephant's Child:

It's true that children will "do math" without using a formal curriculum. Just like some children learn how to read without being "taught how to read."
(Mostly because the parents read aloud to them.)

I would rather introduce Math at a later age, when the child knows how to read well.

Now if only I could learn how not to hate long division. . .

This is really great news, and I thank you for it. :) There's so much good news on the blogosphere this week! :D

I had a conversation just this morning with my 8-year-old about arithmetic. She says she doesn't like it, then she turns around and uses it--none too badly--for her computer game. I think we'll leave the book sit on the end of the school table for awhile, and let off on the "work." :P

As for timed tests: I think they were actually the teeth in the mouth around Cassius. Wow. I hate timed tests so much.

EC, if I remember correctly, the claim was that all arithmetic could be taught in 120 hours, assuming you've got a 12- or 14-yr-old kid who's lived with real math, measured things, tells time, uses money, played board games, baked, etc. I think it would be unreasonable to expect that the 120 hours could be jammed into one month of math instruction.

Mrs Gauntlet, my girls (like yours) "didn't like math." They were BAD at it, doncha know. And yet, for all their moaning about math and their claims of ineptitude, they would go out into the real world for part-time jobs or volunteer work (oh, at age 14-17, say) and come home grousing to no end about the stupidheaded kids who worked with them. They couldn't make change. They couldn't figure up how much four 75-cent pops and three $3 hamburgers cost unless they hauled out the calculator. And when my girls would complain and complain and complain to me about these dunderheads who were getting A's at the public school, it was more than I could do to sympathize with my daughters over the sad state of public education. I just laughed at them for not realizing that they (not their co-workers) were the ones who were GOOD at math.

I have so enjoyed reading these posts on your blog today and Jane's blog the past few days.

BTW-- I finally realized just this afternoon why the name of your blog is what it is. Duh. I can't believe I'd never READ Kipling before!

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